I found it hard to control the color and there was streaking. Half of the clock was finished vertically with Polyshades and … All of the hard work in design and building went down the tubes after using this product. You need to make your mind up before you start. And you don't need to do any poly afterwards, because it's already in the Minwax. after 3 hours i was only half way done and it looked terrible. He is sanding the chest for a third time and throwing whatever was left over out. I had to wipe the second coat off completely with a solvent rag because it had gunked up beyond repair. Do you have to sand between coats of PolyShades? , Heidi @ http://www.HappinessIsHomemade.com. I have settled into 1.5" width max. I wish I had read the reviews first. Whether you are installing a new hardwood floor, refinishing an old one, or just keeping your existing floor looking as good as new, Minwax® has a full range of products to make and keep your floors beautiful. Another vote for not to use it. - Experiment before starting the big job. Minwax also has very high VOC content. Since I now had a coat of Minwax polyurethane one the wood, I searched for a stain that I could apply over the existing varnish. - Clean your surface well (duh). Or did they rip it all out and start over? I'm a finish carpenter and furniture maker, and I do a LOT of finishing and have excellent technique. Finish? I am hesitant to use it on our staircase because there is alot to do and I am afraid it will not go on evenly. I am going to do some more pieces since it worked so well.Diane. Wouldn’t recommend this to anyone. Our entire banister was redone this way and looks great. I looked through the prior reviews and I would have to say that they all apply to my experience with Polyshades. Not sure how long this product has been out, but it is pretty neat in that it has stain & poly all in one step. You should hire a pro if tackling something this large and complex. GOOD LUCK!!! Some people have found they are unable to enter their home for more than 3 weeks because of the smell. :~( It went on poorly and we had to redo the piece the old fashioned way. On this sample I experimented with Antique Walnut, (I ended up choosing Pecan for my pine doors) lightly smoothing out my brush strokes with a long, uninterrupted pass on the final stroke. Apply with high-quality natural bristle brush Cleans up with mineral spirits Combines beautiful color, tough protection in same step ... Minwax 61380444 PolyShades - Stain & Polyurethane in 1 Step, quart, Bombay Mahogany, Satin 4.4 out of 5 stars 74. Overall layout of the space? - Find a brush you are comfortable with. 12 shares. i won't ever use this product again. To test this, you can take a cotton ball and soak it in acetone nail polish remover. Apply with synthetic or foam brush, stain pad or rag OVERVIEW Minwax Color Wash Transparent Layering Color is a water-based wash of color that adds a touch of … I am thinking about giving it a shot. Wouldn't you know the top was some laminate wood. Polyshades Stain Project. I can see that to an amateur this would be acceptable, and I'm guessing 9 out of 10 of my friends that have no idea about fine woodworking would say, "that looks great!" If it end in complete disater, I will strip and stain the wood.... could be worth the $10 to give it a shot??!! Worst case, you'll have to strip it, leaving you pretty much where you started. I used it on my kitchen cabinets to darken the orangey oak finish and it made them look completely re-done. I build furniture from scratch and have finished/ refinished dozens of pieces. I stained my stair treads dark walnut and it didnt quite match my banister. Now I do have one complaint about the product. What a mistake that was! I have a door and a cabinet I will lkely re0do. It ended up streaky because of my brush. Those reviewers who liked their results obviously had experiences different from mine. So I used a rag dipped in the product to do my application, rubbing it on and making sure the application was even. Single fluorescent light? finish with two or three coats of Helmsman Spar Urethane for … I wanted to darken my dining room table and a couple of other pieces of oak furniture. Lindsay from Artsy-Fartsy Mama (artsyfartsymama.com), Thanks, Lindsay! Polyshades is a combination of pigments and polyurethane, sort of like a tone coat used by finishers to tweak a colour or apply an even colour coat. What a disaster. (Refinishing kitchen cabinets.) It the trim is already stained and SEALED you should try in a small area gently sanding the surface and giving a coat of poly-shade. Here is a link that might be useful: Picturetrail link. The formula could have improved. We used it once and it was kind of a disaster. Walnut and the Bombay mahogany on my kitchen cabinets when I first began. cabs in about an hour. The Restore a finish is nice, but is not affecting the color much, and getting a redder hue is what I am after. Don't forget to pick out a high-quaity, natural bristle brush. Wow Redbazel, those look GREAT! Yep, done this with this product. While there are some situations where Polyshades work very well, the traditional two-step method, stain the bare wood the first day, then apply the finish the next, will always be the most reliable way to have total control over the color of your stain and the sheen of your finish. These colour patches are all part of the "price" you pay for a professional to stain your floor. Allow a few hours dry time and do coat #2. I am so excited to have found your blog!! It's all in the application. Not acceptable to a "pro", but acceptable to folks I know who are aware, picky and share honest feedback. We had 2 different projects we were doing a chest of drawers and and end table that I converted to be used as a Lego table for my Grandson. Did they just change out to laminate and paint the walls? Number of drawers in the kitchen? Alright, I suppose I will answer my own question for anyone who comes here. Minwax® preparation products are the first step to ensure your wood surfaces show their most beautiful colors and smoothest finishes. I tried rubbing the minwax and brushing. $23.73. Using a rag also eliminates the bubbles you get when you apply Polyshades with a brush. Decided to use the “one step” approach and am regretting it. In my opinion, a rag/t-shirt is the way to go … It's the runs that get you. Minwax ® PolyShades ® combines beautiful oil based wood stain and polyurethane in one simple step. We were applying it vertically and in a dark stain. We were applying it to the verticle sides of a large piece of furniture and it looks like the stain "sagged". And here’s another tip I learned: PolyShades® will always work best on flat surfaces, simply because carvings, spindles, and corners naturally pull excess liquid out of your brush. I loved this product! I had to do a couple of coats on some pieces to achieve the color I was looking for. If there is finish on it you are going to have to remove it to get any other stain to penetrate. Well, she politely (but firmly) suggested that I build a separate office over our two-car garage, which I did. Hope this helps. I've used either the Bombay Mahogany alone, or mixed with the Antique Walnut, on each project. Minwax® offers a variety of easy-to-use products to help clean and repair wood that is chipped, cracked, scratched, even decayed, to its original beauty. Here is a link to kitchen cabinet pictures. Years ago, on one of my first PolyShades® projects, I learned that foam brushes make sloppy applicators, as they apply an uneven coat and leave behind a trail of bubbles. terrible idea. Now I’m the blogger behind a Disney inspired Home blog. It was there I fell in love with the beauty of the grain of the wood, either hidden beneath an old dark finish or highlighted with a new coat of stain. Each time I took on a new project, I took over the dining room table or the coffee table. I got involved with the new owner when the finish of the floors started scuffing and showing the original natural color through the scuffs. Dip a clean, dry paint brush or rag into your stain. Very nice. Don't pick up a paintbrush until you read this, Get the facts on advantages, disadvantages, costs and installation to see if a cork bathroom floor is right for you. I’m looking forward to following along Bruce! Use our guide to get familiar with this natural flooring material, Make your kitchen uniquely yours with painted cabinetry. Keeping the brush cleared with thinner keeps the minwax flowing thinner, better, and more consistently; plus, it keeps the minwax wetter longer. I used the bombay stain on floors and steps it was so lovely we wanted to stain kitchen cabinets. You have better control as to how much stain you apply and how you distribute it. I very lightly sanded with the super fine sandpaper (450 grit? When Leigh Ann and I first met, my house was 90% office and 10% home. What have your neighbors done? Guaranteed problems. Let's start with the bad results: I recently worked on a home where the prior owner had used Polyshades to make the maple flooring darker and more modern looking. this was a huge mistake on my part that I won't make again. Some have done light sanding between coats, but I did not. Paint is going over what is already there. Both water-based and oil-based products give off strong fumes as they dry (although oil-based is decidedly worse), so proper ventilation is a must. I just put bombay satin polyshades on a concert bass drum I'm restoring, it's 36 inch diameter mahogany shell, about 16 inches deep, that I sanding sealed and finished at 120 grit. For a smaller project like an occasional table I'd use it. I did try brushing on the stain on my bath cupboards, then blending it and spreading it more evenly with the rag. Tell us: Which paint shade possesses you? As you can see, the Pecan Minwax® PolyShades® added just the right amount of color and plenty of protective polyurethane finish. Turn to Minwax® to add rich color and durable protection to your wood project in a single step. How to Apply PolyShades Stir PolyShades thoroughly, using a clean stirring stick. After wiping off the dust, apply Polycrylic®. Hardwood should work with high-end product. I have an entire houseful of woodwork to darken due to new wood floors. Hmmmm, you are convincing me to give it another shot with a rag. I used Polyshades in anitique walnut to add bit of a red hue. Then a second coat of the Polyshades … January 16, 2008 By Rhoda 43 Comments. I then read later that it was best used on pieces that are flat and in a light color. My best friend thought I got a new dining room table!Diane. I honestly had no idea that it made SO much of a difference, but I will definitely be using a quality natural bristle brush in the future. I do not follow the instructions on the can though. If you’d like to see what I did, just click below. 4: Sand between coats with a scotch brite style pad, this removes the dust but doesn't destroy the sharp edges of the wood. It's definetly something you need to spot test [inside the piece, if possible]. Instead, I use a quality natural bristle brush and just dip half an inch of the bristles into the can. I have no cash left to pay a pro to redo everything or to replace all of the doors and trim in my home. :-) ). Allow the wood to dry, then sand off the raised grain with #220 sandpaper. I am glad to hear it worked out for you Diane! The last thing I may try is actually thinning the minwax with thinner, but I don't know if I will go there now that my results are so much improved. Most often, they have huge lacks when compared to modern cabinets. I’ve had good luck with polyshades on certain smaller projects. I'm not sorry I'm refinishing the cabinets myself, because the $20,000 we're saving is how we're paying for all the rest of the kitchen re-do! At that point I would (1.) So, I bought some Polyshades by Minwax. ), cleaned that up and used a really soft brush to put down the Polyshade. Here is a link to kitchen cabinet pictures. If your installer doesn't know/use anything other than Minwax, ask if they know of someone else who can help them with a professional colour. Anyone have feedback?? We used foam brushes and a lot of patients. Yeah, we are so not using this product. You have better control as to how much stain you apply and how you distribute it. It seemed to go on well and I gave the top a shot. I took great care when I did this and started out on my least favorite piece of furniture, an entertainment center. He/she will offer a colour patch for each which you will inspect. i'm now sanding it all back down and starting over. Apply the stain in smooth, even strokes in the direction of the wood grain until you completely cover the surface. Concealed hinges? I bought Bombay Mahogany, that is definitely the look I want on my staircase. The transitional floors are showing plenty of this colour. All the pieces came out beautifully. Oil based poly will give you an amber tone. No that was not the case. apply a coat of oil-based Minwax Wood Conditioner according to directions, (2.) Then, put it on your stained furniture in an inconspicuous place. Even after full cure, the smell can be very, very strong. So I went for it a tried a small patch of our staircase. Never used it again. I thought I'd give the polyshades a try to save a step, and because it was the color I wanted and the store didn't have anything even close to that dark in a stain. Coming from a family of DIYers, I have great memories helping with projects in my dad's basement workshop and refinishing antiques in my grandmother's back yard. And when it came time to stain and finish the three unfinished pine doors, I went looking for a way to save myself some time. I've changed over entire staircases for customers and all were delighted with the amazing results. - Bruce. It IS VERY difficult to get an even color over large surfaces, and I have pretty good hand control and alot of patience. I already have primer from SW that can go over varnished woodwork, so I could be all set. A flooring professional worth his/her salt will work with anything BUT NOT Minwax. It looks great, it covered well and it is even. The finish is below average at best…hard to work with and little control on shading. The one you choose = the one he/she puts down on your floor. Enter PolyShades. Natural and synthetic bristle brushes specifically designed for use with Minwax® wood finishing products. I brush on, let sit for about minute while I’m brushing on further down the project. And bonus that it put a perfect coat of poly on it...saved me a step or 2 :) Would recommend 100%!!! Love your wood furniture, but not the color of the finish? Find out what stains your flooring contractor likes to work with. I hold a brush in one hand, a rag in the other. My home has medium brown stained pine trim and doors. It sounds like this would be the best approach for you in your projects. You must your finish your section. This product is HORRIBLE to apply, especially on vertical surfaces like a door. But this was about 3 or so years ago. Work small sections at a time. Stain means changing the color of the wood, like a stain on your best shirt that won't come out. My finance and I have been long time users of Minwax. Frequently clean your brush with paint thinner. I waited four hours and applied a second coat, since the first coat was completely dry to the touch. It sounds like this would be the best approach for you in your projects. Looking for speed and convenience? We just finished 1200 feet of pine trim, a hand rail, 5 six panel doors and 3 mahogany door with satin polyshades. I just stained two wooden crates for my boys last night. A while back, I chatted all about this “rockin” furniture makeover (ha.ha.ha.). To complete the graining process, wait until the first coat of Minwax ® Gel Stain is completely dry (24-48 hours), then apply a second coat of Gel Stain with a natural bristle brush in the direction of the grain pattern created. But in the right circumstances it can work quite well. Hope you continue to give Minwax a chance. Adjustable shelving? I found the rag method much easier and did my first coat on clean kit. The cabinets were cleaned and sanded but the foam brushed stain came out very streaky. *grrr*. Using a rag also eliminates the bubbles you get when you apply Polyshades with a brush. Using a rag also eliminates the bubbles you get when you apply Polyshades with a brush. polyshade is aweful. It works by dissolving the exisiting finish [it wouldn't stick, otherwise], and if that finish is old, uneven, or very thick, it just makes a mess. I didn't glob it on - I thought that thin coats would be best and that turned out to be right. PolyShades® is a combination wood stain and polyurethane finish, allowing you to get both color and protection in one easy step. Several posters on another message board I use tried it on my recommendation and loved it. I used a satin poly after the Polyshades was dry. I then brushed on a thin coat of PolyShades®. Wet or tacky Gel Stain can be removed easily with a rag moistened with mineral spirits. I built a Cherry Tall Clock for a MinWax Ad Ten years ago using their Natural Cherry Polyshades. When it's applied even it's works great. The better the wood preparation, the better the final result. 2: A quality brush (3-4") the soft bristles leave fewer brush lines. WRONG!!!). Wipe that clean with a cloth and let dry, then apply more coats of the wipe-on poly with the rag to build the finish back up. Finish the surface with PolyShades within two hours of application of the Minwax conditioner. If you are going to use Polyshades you don't need the pre-conditioner. I'm finding that I need to thin it out alot and have found by using a roller (very fine foam roller) I can get the large areas pretty even, but it's still pretty tricky. Re: Spraying Minwax Polyshades 07-12-2012, 10:00 AM I tried mixing a bit of the red umber polyshades with my danish oil and used that to build color , very diluted mind you. Here's how (and what) to paint them, Want a major new look for your kitchen or bathroom cabinets on a DIY budget? Anyone have any luck with kitchen cabinet refinishing, Yeah, I read that post. As my wife will attest, I love projects, but just as important I love sharing my experiences with others through my books, articles, columns -- and now this blog! I've tried this and "Howards Restore-a-Finish". Example: one cabinet door, one coat at a time. You have no control of the stain color,it drys to quick and irregular. The products that have made Minwax® an American icon will add color and beauty to your wood—in oil or water-based stains. Evaluate the room as a whole, and within the house, and the house within the neighborhood. I stumbled upon a product called Minwax PolyShades. Some people love it, others still prefer the two-step method that gives you more control as you apply the stain first, wipe off the excess, let it dry, then apply two or three coats of a clear finish. My finance said I must have done something wrong. I found the rag method much easier and did my first coat on clean kit. It states you can change the color of stain directly over varnish without stripping. In any case (if this goes horribly awry, or I decide to strip it the old fashioned way), I will just get some orange stripper stuff. Polyurethane is so durable and water-resistant, it has largely replaced shellac and varnish as a wood finish. This was a quick facelift on a 1920's bungalow. - This stuff is too thick and sets too fast.To overcome this I work one thing at a time to "completion". That's what Minwax offers...and some of their finishes take 21 days to cure (no furniture, etc x 21 days). Thanks so much for teaching me the proper techniques! Learn costs and other important details about renewing a hardwood floor — and the one mistake you should avoid, Comfortable, sustainable and easy on the eye, cork has a lot going for it. Minwax Design Series washes, wood effects and waxes offer new options for bare wood and wood that's already stained. For what it's worth, I used the satin finish, didn't want a lot of gloss. Any ideas on how to fix? Combine the Minwax Design Series with other Minwax stains to produce on-trend looks, finishes and special effects. It's stain and polyeurethane combined. I got the satin finish as well. Originally, it had to be brushed on, but different formulations mean it can now be applied as a spray or by wiping it on with a rag. La finition PolyShades ® permet de réduire le temps consacré à la finition par rapport à l’application d’une teinture d’une part, puis l’application d’une protection d’autre part. cabs in about an hour. My rule: the more intricate the project, the more apt I am to fall back on the two-step method. I don't want to risk a huge mess on our staircase. Please work with something that is consider "professional grade"...Minwax does not fit the bill. But the rest is turning out quite well. Using a rag to apply stain, you’ll both apply and then remove any excess stain in one step. I just finished using it on the fireplace mantel and it looks great there too. - I use thinner liberally and frequently on my brush. So I re-sanded the entire piece again and started all over. This product only differs from Polyshades in that it's a gel, so it's thicker to start with. very relieved to read this post. If I did a big project like kitchen cabinets again I'd bite the bullet and strip all the way to the wood first, stain, and then varnish. Using a rag to apply stain, you'll both apply and then remove any excess stain in one step. As you've gathered, its kind of a hit or miss product. WOW, I am really getting some mixed opinions here (have it posted on Woodworking as well). It does take longer maybe to get more darkening. Apply the finish in a clean, well-ventilated area. 20 year old cabinets should really be evaluated hard before you put expensive changes into them and seal it under stone. Be sure to stir the can thoroughly before you use it, and … ... soaking a rag in that, wringing it out and wiping with the mix along the grain, overlapping your previous pass 1/2 each wipe. I figured after I put the first coat on and let it dry and lightly sanded that the second coat would fill in the unevenness of the color and the poly. We decided to use your new product Minwax Poly Shades. For superior durability and long-lasting beauty, the choice is clear — protective clear finishes from Minwax! With Minwax® wood stains, there’s a color to suit every style. I think it great for crappy furniture to get a second lease on life, but we need to do it the old fashioned way if we do it at all! The brush and the brusher are the most important components for a fine finish. -Bruce. Let the stain sit for the appropriate amount of time per the product instructions. Available sizes: 1½", 2", 2½". - I use small amounts in a separate container (don't paint directly out of the minwax can as I started doing. I use a sponge with a ScotchBrite backing to gain surface grip for the minwax (I simply do not have the time to remove all doors and work them horizontally). Soffits? The items were sanded and prepped. I am able to easily work the surface (a vertical door jamb for example) top to bottom. Allow the Polyshades® to dry for 6 hours between coats. But, I am glad to know about this product because I think ther are others pieces I could use it on and not cry if they didn't come out perfect. Hope you continue to give Minwax a chance. die App nutzen, stimmen Sie der Verwendung von Cookies und von ähnlichen Verfahren der Houzz Gruppe zur Verbesserung der Produkte, Dienstleistungen, zur Darstellung von relevanten Inhalten und um das Nutzererlebnis anzupassen, zu. If desired, apply stain such as Minwax® Water-Based Wood Stain or Minwax® Wood Finish ... moisten the wood with a rag or sponge dipped in water. i am building a tv console and thought i would use polyshade to save a step of staining then applying a protective finish. Sorry for the delay in replying. http://www.minwax.com/wood-products/one-step-stain-and-finishes/minwax-PolyShades Love your wood furniture, but not the color of the finish? One of my favourite looks. Your previous post said that the picture represented a "natural stain and finish" . Typically, I use the traditional two-step method:  apply my stain, wiping off the excess liquid before it dries, then the next day apply a clear finish. Minwax is fine. What a mistake that was. I have used this product for the first time thinking I could save a step by applying the stain and the poly in one swoop. I tested it out on our entry table, I started in the back since I wasn't sure if it was laquered or varnished. 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